- Hosts: Ed Jones (Owner – Nutrition World) & Clint Powell
- A variety of topics to living a healthy life
Presented by: Nutrition World
Broadcasting from the Nooga Dentistry Studio
Production of: Whitfield Media Group
Title: Beyond Cholesterol: The Heart Health Markers That Matter
[0:00:00] – Intro: Lettuce Contamination, Social Media & Local Business Impact
- Discussion of “fear of lettuce,” limited to 15 states (not Tennessee)
- How social media amplifies food scares
- Local “Build a Salad” restaurant going out of business and timing around lettuce scare
[0:04:39] – Back-to-School Immune Support: Oral Probiotics & Iodine Nasal Spray
- Back-to-school season and rise in colds/sicknesses
- Oral probiotics for kids: oral microbiome, throat/sinus benefits
- Iodine nasal spray for parents and teachers: safety, use during school/gym, personal routines of Ed and Clint
[0:08:04] – Supplement Industry & Big Pharma Buyouts
- Thorne bought by Procter & Gamble for $3.8B
- History of pharma mocking “granola/hippie” supplement culture, now buying brands
- Many acquired supplement brands failing under pharma ownership
- Difference between pharma customers and nutraceutical users (education, mindset)
- Nutrition World’s preference for privately owned brands
[0:14:00] – Life Lessons from Flying & Racing: Doing the Hard but Right Thing
- Ed’s story: practicing engine-out landings, re-learning best glide speed
- Insight: sometimes you must “point the nose down” (do the counterintuitive hard thing) to survive
- Clint’s race-car analogy: “you go where you look” – look down the track, not at the wall
[0:18:01] – Food Label Claims: Olive Oil vs. Avocado Oil Products
- UC Davis testing of products “made with olive oil” – most passed authenticity tests
- Avocado-oil-labeled products often failing purity tests
- Takeaway: be more skeptical of “made with avocado oil” claims
[0:18:31] – Prostate Cancer & “Treating the Terrain,” Not Just the Tumor
- Dr. Gio (prostate-focused naturopath): focus on the ground cancer grows in
- Historical context from Stephen Paget’s work on tumor “soil and seed”
- Lifestyle “soil-building” recommendations:
- Resistance training, walking 150 minutes/week
- Waist circumference < half your height
- Sleep, stress reduction, nutraceuticals, nutrient-dense diet
[0:21:58] – Multivitamins, Carotid Stenosis & Functional Benefits
- COSMOS study: Centrum multivitamin and patients with carotid narrowing
- Reported improvements in physical function (walking, climbing stairs) and symptoms (shortness of breath, fatigue)
- Ed’s extrapolation: better-designed multis (True Grace, Life Extension, etc.) likely offer even more benefit
[0:22:30] – Post-Infectious Cough: Honey + Instant Coffee vs. Prednisone
- Double-blind RCT comparing:
- Honey + instant coffee paste
- Prednisone
- Guaifenesin
- Honey + instant coffee dramatically outperformed prednisone in reducing persistent cough frequency
- Discussion of guaifenesin’s role, safety, and its regulatory history in health food vs. pharmacy channels
[0:30:12] – Prednisone, COVID & Anxiety: Personal Case Story
- Guest Dr. Curt Dearing shares:
- Followed COVID protocol including prednisone
- Developed severe, prolonged anxiety afterward (twice)
- Realization that prednisone triggered it
- Ed’s summary of prednisone side effects: bone loss, cataracts, muscle wasting, weight gain; okay short term, risky long term
[0:33:30] – Cardiovascular Disease, Statins, & New Drug Lifendra (PCSK9 Inhibitor Pill)
- CV disease framed as leading cause of death for most people
- Introduction of Lifendra (oral PCSK9 inhibitor, from Merck) as “breakthrough” LDL-lowering drug
- Comparison with Repatha (injectable PCSK9 inhibitor)
- Curt’s key points:
- Lifendra lowers LDL but does not show reduction in cardiovascular death, heart attack, or stroke (per Merck’s own wording so far)
- Repatha’s trial data: minimal impact on non-fatal events; no reduction in CV deaths vs. placebo
- Very high cost (~$300+/month out of pocket; heavy insurance burden)
- Critique of LDL obsession in cardiology
- Need to ask: Why is the cardiovascular system inflamed and oxidized?
- Ed & Curt’s “terrain” model:
- Bad inputs: ultra-processed food, toxins, poor sleep, chronic stress, lack of sun/movement
- Missing inputs: nutrient-dense foods, minerals, omega-3s, organ meats, sunlight, sleep, movement
- Example of amlodipine: lowers BP numbers but may increase arterial calcification (calcium channel blocker)
- For people unwilling to change lifestyle, drugs may offer marginal benefit—but not true health
[0:41:05] – Curt’s Book & Lab Markers That Matter More Than LDL-C
- Curt’s book: “Beyond Cholesterol: The Ultimate Guide to Testing and Supplements for Heart Health”
- Emphasis on better markers: ApoB, LDL particle size/number, calcium score, etc.
- Book’s Amazon performance briefly noted (new release bestseller in its category)
[0:44:32] – Alternatives to Statins & PCSK9s: Bergamot & Lifestyle
- Curt’s hierarchy:
- Lifestyle (diet, exercise, stress, sleep)
- Targeted supplements like bergamot (citrus extract): lowers harmful particles such as ApoB and supports “good” LDL function
- Only then consider pharmaceuticals, and very selectively
- Skepticism about recommending Lifendra at all; strong bias toward non-drug approaches
[0:45:28] – Dr. Wolfson, Mold, and Cardiovascular Terrain
- Ed & Curt’s respect for Dr. Jack Wolfson, “The Natural Heart Doctor”
- Mention of mold as a major, under-recognized driver of cardiovascular disease
- Reference to Dr. Wolfson’s educational resources and upcoming podcast plans
[0:48:04] – Key Takeaways on Lifendra & Heart Prevention Strategy
- Lifendra will not fix: seed oils, glyphosate exposure, mold, bad sleep, chronic stress
- Terrain-building priorities:
- Real food, omega-3s, sunlight
- Toxin reduction
- Mitochondrial support
- Foundational supplements
- Contrast: drugs = band-aids with side effects; nutraceuticals = “side benefits” when used correctly
[0:52:28] – Wrap-Up
- Ed mentions Sprouts selling lab-grown meat and his strong opposition
- Update on Oura Ring: now tracking nighttime blood pressure and importance of BP dipping
- Listener story: young man post–heart surgery credits Nutrition World’s education and support with changing his life
- Final thanks to Dr. Dearing and closing outro
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